Ivanhoe clearly has suspicions about the Black Knight’s true identity, based in part on his physical characteristics (his tall height, his broad shoulders) but mostly based on his courageous attitude in battle. Like Ivanhoe, the Black Knight becomes one of the most compelling arguments for the value of chivalry in the book, insofar as his expertise and skill as a knight frequently do serve to protect the powerless, rescue the helpless, and chastise the arrogant. When Rebecca questions Ivanhoe directly about what chivalry has gotten him other than pain and suffering, he points to glory and honor. But his argument never reaches beyond internal justifications—chivalry defines success in war as glory, then excuses violence as the path toward glory. Ivanhoe’s answer skips over Rebecca’s real question about how to measure chivalry against other values like romantic and familial love or social cohesion.