Their conversation is relatively superficial, but Rin and Kitay begin to circle an important point here: the Federation of Mugen is, in fact, inhabited by fellow human beings, but each side has been taught to dehumanize the other to justify killing their enemies. Jiang continues to see Rin as naïve and inexperienced, given that she’s so intent on using the gods to help Nikan’s military achieve victory. However, it’s important to note that his telling her this mostly results in her doubling down on her belief that she’s mature—something that, in fact, seems to point to Jiang being right.