Tradition and the Individual Talent

by

T. S. Eliot

Traditional Poet Character Analysis

The traditional poet is Eliot’s conception of the ideal poet. Eliot explains that, due to certain prejudices, tradition in writing is often given a bad name. Readers tend to think that the traditional poet’s poetry is derivative and lacks individuality because they only want to appreciate poetry that is different. However, Eliot maintains that traditional poetry is superior and that its best parts are the ones in which “the dead poets assert their immortality.” The traditional poet, therefore, is someone who appreciates and emulates the past. However, the traditional poet also differs from their ancestors in that they are able, from their position in the present, to know the dead poets better than the dead poets could know themselves. The traditional poet has more responsibility than an immature poet because the traditional poet must obtain “the consciousness of the past […] and continue to develop this consciousness throughout his career.” The entire history of writing is alive in the traditional poet’s work, because they know that art never improves, it only adjusts slightly. The traditional poet has this “historical sense” which makes them aware “of the timeless and of the temporal together.” The traditional poet surrenders to the past and, in so doing, depersonalizes their poetry. In making their poetry impersonal, the traditional poet crafts new feelings out of common emotions. All in all, the traditional poet is not, as they may first seem, an unoriginal imitator of the past. Although they revere and preserve the past, they also pioneer all new and valuable poetry. Eliot’s claim is that new, valuable, and individual poetry is the emulation of the past, but in a new form in the present.

Traditional Poet Quotes in Tradition and the Individual Talent

The Tradition and the Individual Talent quotes below are all either spoken by Traditional Poet or refer to Traditional Poet. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
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Part 1 Quotes

We endeavor to find something that can be isolated in order to be enjoyed. Whereas if we approach a poet without this prejudice we shall often find that not only the best, but the most individual parts of his work may be those in which the dead poets, his ancestors, assert their immortality most vigorously.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Dead Poet
Page Number: 100
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This historical sense, which is a sense of the timeless as well as of the temporal and of the timeless and of the temporal together, is what makes a writer traditional. And it is at the same time what makes a writer most acutely conscious of his place in time, of his contemporaneity.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 101
Explanation and Analysis:

To conform merely would be for the new work not really to conform at all; it would not be new, and would therefore not be a work of art. And we do not quite say that the new is more valuable because it fits in; but its fitting in is a test of its value.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Dead Poet
Page Number: 101
Explanation and Analysis:

The poet must be very conscious of the main current, which does not at all flow invariably through the most distinguished reputations. He must be quite aware of the obvious fact that art never improves, but that the material of art is never quite the same.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Immature Poet
Page Number: 102
Explanation and Analysis:

But the difference between the present and the past is that the conscious present is an awareness of the past in a way and to an extent which the past’s awareness of itself cannot show.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Dead Poet
Page Number: 102
Explanation and Analysis:

What happens is a continual surrender of himself as he is at the moment to something which is more valuable. The progress of an artist is a continual self-sacrifice, a continual extinction of personality.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 103
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Part 2 Quotes

The mind of the mature poet differs from that of the immature one not precisely in any valuation of “personality,” not being necessarily more interesting, or having “more to say,” but rather by being a more finely perfected medium in which special, or very varied, feelings are at liberty to enter into new combinations.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Immature Poet
Related Symbols: Platinum, Sulphur Dioxide and Oxygen
Page Number: 104
Explanation and Analysis:

The more perfect the artist, the more completely separate in him will be the man who suffers and the man who creates; the more perfectly will the mind digest and transmute the passions which are its material.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Related Symbols: Platinum, Sulphur Dioxide and Oxygen
Page Number: 104
Explanation and Analysis:

[The traditional poet’s] emotions may be simple, or crude, or flat. The emotion in his poetry will be a very complex thing, but not with the complexity of the emotions of people who have very complex or unusual emotions in life.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 106-107
Explanation and Analysis:

Poetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 107
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Traditional Poet Quotes in Tradition and the Individual Talent

The Tradition and the Individual Talent quotes below are all either spoken by Traditional Poet or refer to Traditional Poet. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
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Part 1 Quotes

We endeavor to find something that can be isolated in order to be enjoyed. Whereas if we approach a poet without this prejudice we shall often find that not only the best, but the most individual parts of his work may be those in which the dead poets, his ancestors, assert their immortality most vigorously.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Dead Poet
Page Number: 100
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This historical sense, which is a sense of the timeless as well as of the temporal and of the timeless and of the temporal together, is what makes a writer traditional. And it is at the same time what makes a writer most acutely conscious of his place in time, of his contemporaneity.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 101
Explanation and Analysis:

To conform merely would be for the new work not really to conform at all; it would not be new, and would therefore not be a work of art. And we do not quite say that the new is more valuable because it fits in; but its fitting in is a test of its value.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Dead Poet
Page Number: 101
Explanation and Analysis:

The poet must be very conscious of the main current, which does not at all flow invariably through the most distinguished reputations. He must be quite aware of the obvious fact that art never improves, but that the material of art is never quite the same.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Immature Poet
Page Number: 102
Explanation and Analysis:

But the difference between the present and the past is that the conscious present is an awareness of the past in a way and to an extent which the past’s awareness of itself cannot show.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Dead Poet
Page Number: 102
Explanation and Analysis:

What happens is a continual surrender of himself as he is at the moment to something which is more valuable. The progress of an artist is a continual self-sacrifice, a continual extinction of personality.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 103
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 2 Quotes

The mind of the mature poet differs from that of the immature one not precisely in any valuation of “personality,” not being necessarily more interesting, or having “more to say,” but rather by being a more finely perfected medium in which special, or very varied, feelings are at liberty to enter into new combinations.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet, Immature Poet
Related Symbols: Platinum, Sulphur Dioxide and Oxygen
Page Number: 104
Explanation and Analysis:

The more perfect the artist, the more completely separate in him will be the man who suffers and the man who creates; the more perfectly will the mind digest and transmute the passions which are its material.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Related Symbols: Platinum, Sulphur Dioxide and Oxygen
Page Number: 104
Explanation and Analysis:

[The traditional poet’s] emotions may be simple, or crude, or flat. The emotion in his poetry will be a very complex thing, but not with the complexity of the emotions of people who have very complex or unusual emotions in life.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 106-107
Explanation and Analysis:

Poetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things.

Related Characters: T.S. Eliot (speaker), Traditional Poet
Page Number: 107
Explanation and Analysis: