The Magic Mountain

The Magic Mountain

by

Thomas Mann

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Joachim Ziemssen Character Analysis

Joachim Ziemssen is Hans Castorp’s cousin. He is ill with tuberculosis and is a resident of the Berghof, where Hans visits him at the beginning of the novel. A soldier, Joachim has a deeply engrained sense of duty, and this never leaves him, even after all the time he’s spent at the sanatorium. Joachim is unique as a character in that he has a deep sense of honor. What’s more, he is able to translate his beliefs into practical action: he has a sense of duty to his nation, and he acts on that honor by doing everything he can to recover from illness and return to his military service. For this reason, he is shocked when Hans eagerly agrees to stay at the Berghof indefinitely following his unexpected illness. Joachim eventually checks out of the Berghof against Behrens’s advice in order to return to his military service, an ill-advised (albeit honorable) choice that ultimately brings about his demise. Only a few months into his service, his health takes a turn for a worse, and he’s forced to return to the Berghof. Not long after, he succumbs to his illness and dies.

Joachim Ziemssen Quotes in The Magic Mountain

The The Magic Mountain quotes below are all either spoken by Joachim Ziemssen or refer to Joachim Ziemssen. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
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Part 1, Chapter 1: Arrival Quotes

Time, they say, is water from the river Lethe, but alien air is a similar drink; and if its effects are less profound, it works all the more quickly.

Related Characters: Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen
Page Number: 4
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Part 1, Chapter 2: Room 34 Quotes

It was a cough, apparently—a man’s cough, but a cough unlike any that Hans Castorp had ever heard; indeed, compared to it, all other coughs with which he was familiar had been splendid, healthy expressions of life—a cough devoid of any zest for life or love, which didn’t come in spasms, but sounded as if someone were stirring feebly in a terrible mush of decomposing organic material.

Related Characters: Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen, The Austrian Horseman
Page Number: 12
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 1, Chapter 3: In the Restaurant Quotes

“Quickly and slowly, just as you like,” Joachim replied. “What I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t really pass at all, there is no time as such, and this is no life—no, that it’s not,” he said, shaking his head and reaching again for his glass.

Related Characters: Joachim Ziemssen (speaker), Hans Castorp
Page Number: 14
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 3, Chapter 3: Teasing/Viaticum/Interrupted Moment Quotes

Joachim searched for an answer. “My God,” he said, “they’re so free. I mean, they’re young and time plays no role in their lives, and they may very well die. Why should they go around with long faces? I sometimes think that illness and death aren’t really serious matters, that it’s all more like loafing around, and that, strictly speaking, things are serious only down below in real life. I think maybe you’ll come to understand that in due time, after you’ve been up here with us a little longer.”

Related Characters: Joachim Ziemssen (speaker), Hans Castorp, Hermine Kleefeld
Page Number: 50
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 3, Chapter 5: Clarity of Mind Quotes

“You said ‘actually.’ But ‘actually’ doesn’t apply,” Hans Castorp responded. He was sitting with one thigh hiked up on the railing; the whites of his eyes were bloodshot. “There is nothing ‘actual’ about time. If it seems long to you, then it is long, and if it seems to pass quickly, then it’s short. But how long or how short it is in actuality, no one knows.” He was not at all used to philosophizing, and yet felt some urge to do so.

Joachim contested this. “Why is that? No. We do measure it. We have clocks and calendars, and when a month has passed, then it’s passed—for you and me and everyone.”

Related Characters: Hans Castorp (speaker), Joachim Ziemssen (speaker)
Related Symbols: Thermometers/Cigars
Page Number: 63-64
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 3, Chapter 8: Herr Albin Quotes

On the whole, however, it seemed to him that although honor had its advantages, so, too, did disgrace, and that indeed the advantages of the latter were almost boundless. He tried putting himself in Herr Albin’s shoes and imagining how it must be when one is finally free of all the pressures honor brings and one can endlessly enjoy the unbounded advantages of disgrace—and the young man was terrified by a sense of dissolute sweetness that set his heart pounding even faster for a while.

Related Characters: Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen, Leo Naphta, Herr Albin
Page Number: 79
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 4, Chapter 10: The Thermometer Quotes

“Illness makes people even more physical, turns them into only a body.”

Related Characters: Hans Castorp (speaker), Joachim Ziemssen, Dr. Behrens
Page Number: 175
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 2: Someone Else Quotes

“Oh, you and your learning! You’re always learning up here—about biology and botany and slippery turning points. And you started in on ‘time’ your first day here. When what we’re here to do is to get healthier, not more clever—healthier, until we’re truly healthy, so they can finally let us go free and send us back to the flatlands cured.”

Related Characters: Joachim Ziemssen (speaker), Hans Castorp, Clavdia Chauchat, Lodovico Settembrini, Leo Naphta, Dr. Behrens
Page Number: 379
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 3: The City of God and Evil Deliverance Quotes

His form is logic, but his nature is confusion.

Related Characters: Lodovico Settembrini (speaker), Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen, Leo Naphta
Page Number: 399
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 4: An Outburst of Temper/Something Very Embarrassing Quotes

“Yes, you’re cured. The spot at the upper left isn’t worth talking about. Your temperature has nothing to do with it. I can’t tell you what causes that. I assume it’s of no further importance. As far as I’m concerned, you may leave.”

Related Characters: Dr. Behrens (speaker), Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen
Page Number: 411
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 8: A Good Soldier Quotes

But honor was the death of him, or—if you turn it the other way around—death did him the honor.

Related Characters: Dr. Behrens (speaker), Joachim Ziemssen
Page Number: 529
Explanation and Analysis:
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Joachim Ziemssen Quotes in The Magic Mountain

The The Magic Mountain quotes below are all either spoken by Joachim Ziemssen or refer to Joachim Ziemssen. For each quote, you can also see the other characters and themes related to it (each theme is indicated by its own dot and icon, like this one:
Time  Theme Icon
).
Part 1, Chapter 1: Arrival Quotes

Time, they say, is water from the river Lethe, but alien air is a similar drink; and if its effects are less profound, it works all the more quickly.

Related Characters: Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen
Page Number: 4
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 1, Chapter 2: Room 34 Quotes

It was a cough, apparently—a man’s cough, but a cough unlike any that Hans Castorp had ever heard; indeed, compared to it, all other coughs with which he was familiar had been splendid, healthy expressions of life—a cough devoid of any zest for life or love, which didn’t come in spasms, but sounded as if someone were stirring feebly in a terrible mush of decomposing organic material.

Related Characters: Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen, The Austrian Horseman
Page Number: 12
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 1, Chapter 3: In the Restaurant Quotes

“Quickly and slowly, just as you like,” Joachim replied. “What I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t really pass at all, there is no time as such, and this is no life—no, that it’s not,” he said, shaking his head and reaching again for his glass.

Related Characters: Joachim Ziemssen (speaker), Hans Castorp
Page Number: 14
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 3, Chapter 3: Teasing/Viaticum/Interrupted Moment Quotes

Joachim searched for an answer. “My God,” he said, “they’re so free. I mean, they’re young and time plays no role in their lives, and they may very well die. Why should they go around with long faces? I sometimes think that illness and death aren’t really serious matters, that it’s all more like loafing around, and that, strictly speaking, things are serious only down below in real life. I think maybe you’ll come to understand that in due time, after you’ve been up here with us a little longer.”

Related Characters: Joachim Ziemssen (speaker), Hans Castorp, Hermine Kleefeld
Page Number: 50
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 3, Chapter 5: Clarity of Mind Quotes

“You said ‘actually.’ But ‘actually’ doesn’t apply,” Hans Castorp responded. He was sitting with one thigh hiked up on the railing; the whites of his eyes were bloodshot. “There is nothing ‘actual’ about time. If it seems long to you, then it is long, and if it seems to pass quickly, then it’s short. But how long or how short it is in actuality, no one knows.” He was not at all used to philosophizing, and yet felt some urge to do so.

Joachim contested this. “Why is that? No. We do measure it. We have clocks and calendars, and when a month has passed, then it’s passed—for you and me and everyone.”

Related Characters: Hans Castorp (speaker), Joachim Ziemssen (speaker)
Related Symbols: Thermometers/Cigars
Page Number: 63-64
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 3, Chapter 8: Herr Albin Quotes

On the whole, however, it seemed to him that although honor had its advantages, so, too, did disgrace, and that indeed the advantages of the latter were almost boundless. He tried putting himself in Herr Albin’s shoes and imagining how it must be when one is finally free of all the pressures honor brings and one can endlessly enjoy the unbounded advantages of disgrace—and the young man was terrified by a sense of dissolute sweetness that set his heart pounding even faster for a while.

Related Characters: Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen, Leo Naphta, Herr Albin
Page Number: 79
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 4, Chapter 10: The Thermometer Quotes

“Illness makes people even more physical, turns them into only a body.”

Related Characters: Hans Castorp (speaker), Joachim Ziemssen, Dr. Behrens
Page Number: 175
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 2: Someone Else Quotes

“Oh, you and your learning! You’re always learning up here—about biology and botany and slippery turning points. And you started in on ‘time’ your first day here. When what we’re here to do is to get healthier, not more clever—healthier, until we’re truly healthy, so they can finally let us go free and send us back to the flatlands cured.”

Related Characters: Joachim Ziemssen (speaker), Hans Castorp, Clavdia Chauchat, Lodovico Settembrini, Leo Naphta, Dr. Behrens
Page Number: 379
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 3: The City of God and Evil Deliverance Quotes

His form is logic, but his nature is confusion.

Related Characters: Lodovico Settembrini (speaker), Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen, Leo Naphta
Page Number: 399
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 4: An Outburst of Temper/Something Very Embarrassing Quotes

“Yes, you’re cured. The spot at the upper left isn’t worth talking about. Your temperature has nothing to do with it. I can’t tell you what causes that. I assume it’s of no further importance. As far as I’m concerned, you may leave.”

Related Characters: Dr. Behrens (speaker), Hans Castorp, Joachim Ziemssen
Page Number: 411
Explanation and Analysis:
Part 6, Chapter 8: A Good Soldier Quotes

But honor was the death of him, or—if you turn it the other way around—death did him the honor.

Related Characters: Dr. Behrens (speaker), Joachim Ziemssen
Page Number: 529
Explanation and Analysis: