That Was Then, This Is Now

by

S. E. Hinton

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Although Bryon and Mark are not actually related to one another, Mark lives with Bryon and his mother as an adoptive part of the family, and they often tell people that they’re brothers. To them, brotherhood isn’t limited to biological brothers. Instead, Bryon and Mark see brotherhood as an irreversible pact wherein they are unconditionally loyal to each other—something that is integral to their survival in 1960s Tulsa, Oklahoma, which is overrun by gang violence. But when Bryon and Mark betray one another in big and small ways, their brotherly bond permanently shatters, and the boys develop a seething hatred for one another that runs deeper than anything they feel for other people. While Hinton shows the value of brotherhood—its loyalty, support, and protection—she also suggests that when brothers betray one another, brotherhood is difficult, if not impossible, to rebuild.

Early on in the story, Hinton illustrates how Mark and Bryon’s brotherly bond is in part about physical protection. Bryon explains in the first chapter that he and Mark have been best friends their whole lives. After Mark’s parents killed each other in a drunken fight when Mark was nine, he moved in with Bryon and his mother, which brought the boys even closer. From an early age, Mark was able to take refuge in his brotherly friendship with Bryon, and it gave him a roof over his head. Years later, Mark is beaten up while he and Bryon are at a party. When Bryon sees the large gash on Mark’s head, he nearly cries at seeing his friend in pain. He drops everything to care for Mark, getting him to the doctor and staying with him in the ambulance to calm him. Mark later expresses his appreciation, saying, “Bryon, you’re the only family I got, you know that? […] I feel like you're my brother. A real one.” Bryon’s friendship makes Mark feel like he has the same physical protection that a biological family might provide. Mark reciprocates this protection later on in the novel when Bryon is beaten up badly and has to have stitches in his face and his ribs taped. Mark takes him to another boy’s house to help him recover and then to the hospital. When Bryon wakes up in the hospital, he sees that Mark is almost crying—something he has never seen Mark do before. Hinton thus reinforces their reciprocal bond, as they care about each other more than anyone else and want to protect each other.

The boys’ mutual protectiveness also speaks to their deep loyalty to and emotional support of one another, which are also foundations of a strong brotherly bond. That Mark and Bryon grew closer to one another after Mark’s parents’ tragic deaths implies that from an early age, the boys provided each other with crucial emotional support. They’re also fiercely loyal to one another. Bryon recalls how, in their younger days, they “had never had a fight. [They] had never even had an argument”—the boys were always on the same page about things and backed each other up. Bryon and Mark have a stronger bond than even some brothers, because their loyalty to each other cancels out any potential conflict. When Mark and Bryon meet a boy named Mike, Mark tells him that he and Bryon are brothers. Bryon thinks, “For a minute I really felt good about Mark’s telling this guy we were brothers.” Later, when Bryon expresses the same thing to Mark, saying, “I always think of you as my brother,” Mark smiles in response. Hinton thus illustrates how the fact that they think of each other as brothers, and express that to each other, is a valuable display of loyalty that also constitutes a kind of emotional support.

But when Bryon and Mark eventually betray one another, their brotherly bond shatters irreparably, suggesting that brotherhood, once broken, is hard to piece back together. When Bryon’s new girlfriend, Cathy, casually remarks that Mark is attractive, Bryon seethes with jealousy. He thinks, “You know what the crummiest feeling you can have is? To hate the person you love best in the world.” Notably, Bryon’s hatred isn’t directed towards Cathy for making the comment, but towards Mark, because he feels it’s a betrayal of their bond that Mark could end up with a girl that Bryon likes. This dynamic intensifies later in the book when Cathy’s brother, M&M, disappears, and she and Bryon frantically search for him every day. When Mark eventually admits that he knows where M&M is, Bryon is furious at him for withholding this information and letting Cathy panic, which he sees as another betrayal. Bryon and Cathy find M&M in a hippie house on a bad drug trip—one that warps his brain so thoroughly that doctors say he’ll never be the same. When Bryon learns that Mark has been selling drugs, he quickly makes the connection between Mark’s dealing drugs and M&M’s lethal drug trip. Bryon feels exceptionally betrayed, describing Mark as “the cause of all this misery.” Even though Mark claims that he didn’t sell drugs to M&M, the fact that Mark sells drugs at all implicates him in the tragedy, because he could have easily caused this kind of devastating trip in someone else. Bryon feels so betrayed that he commits a betrayal of his own, calling the cops on Mark for selling drugs. Mark is imprisoned for five years, and when Bryon visits him in jail, Mark looks more hardened and tough than ever and scathingly tells Bryon that he hates him. Indeed, Bryon thinks Mark would kill him if he had the chance. In betraying one another, both boys violate the contract of their brotherhood, permanently destroying the loyalty and care that once existed between them.

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Brotherhood, Loyalty, and Betrayal Quotes in That Was Then, This Is Now

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Chapter 1 Quotes

I had been friends with Mark long before he came to live with us. He had lived down the street and it seemed to me that we had always been together. We had never had a fight. We had never even had an argument. In looks, we were complete opposites: I’m a big guy, dark hair and eyes—the kind who looks like a Saint Bernard puppy, which I don’t mind as most chicks cannot resist a Saint Bernard puppy. Mark was small and compact, with strange golden eyes and hair to match and a grin like a friendly lion. He was much stronger than he looked—he could tie me in arm wrestling. He was my best friend and we were like brothers.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings, Charlie
Related Symbols: The Lion
Page Number: 12-13
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Chapter 2 Quotes

I was the hustler and Mark was the thief. We were a great pair. One thing about it, though. Mark couldn’t see anything wrong with stealing stuff. I could. It didn’t much matter to me whether or not Mark was a thief, but I still felt that stealing was wrong—at least it’s against the law. I think Mark was only dimly aware of that fact. Stealing was a game to him, something to do for fun and profit, and he was careful not to get caught because that was one of the rules.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings, Bryon’s Mother
Page Number: 25-26
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As we got into the elevator Mark said, “I’m inclined to agree with his old man. That is one stupid guy.”

“You mean it?” I said. I had been thinking about Mike’s story, and I could see his point about not hating the people who beat him up.

“Yeah, I mean it. Man, if anybody ever hurt me like that I’d hate them for the rest of my life.”

I didn’t think much about that statement then. But later I would—I still do. I think about it and think about it until I think I’m going crazy.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker), Curly Shepard, Tim Shepard, Mike Chambers, Connie
Page Number: 41-42
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Chapter 3 Quotes

I stopped breathing for a second. Cathy was looking at Mark, and I suddenly felt like I’d swallowed a spoonful of red pepper. I felt cold and hot and sick and mad all at once. I only felt it for a second, only for a second and then it was gone—but sometimes now I wonder how it would be to feel like that all your life. You know what the crummiest feeling you can have is? To hate the person you love best in the world.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings, Cathy Carlson
Page Number: 55
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Y’know, when I first came around tonight, after that kid cracked me, I was scared stiff. I thought I was dyin’, I was so scared. I really felt weird. But after I got to thinkin’ you were there with me, I calmed down. Bryon, you’re the only family I got, you know that? I mean, your mom’s been great to me and everything, but I don’t feel like she’s really my old lady. But I feel like you’re my brother. A real one.

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas, Bryon’s Mother
Page Number: 63
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Chapter 5 Quotes

Mark didn’t understand and Cathy did. I started spending more and more time with Cathy. Since I had the car, we went for a lot of drives and got a lot of Cokes together. We were always talking to each other about the way we felt—I tried telling her how I felt about Charlie, about how shook the whole thing had me. […] I could talk to her about anything, talk to her better than I could anyone, even Mark.

After a few weeks we’d drive by the park and make out for a little while. It was different for me though, because I had quit thinking only about myself, quit pushing for all I could get.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings, Charlie, Cathy Carlson
Related Symbols: Cars
Page Number: 87
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Chapter 7 Quotes

“You can’t walk through your whole life saying ‘If.’ You can’t keep trying to figure out why things happen, man. That’s what old people do. That’s when you can’t get away with things any more. You gotta just take things as they come, and quit trying to reason them out. Bryon, you never used to wonder about things. Man, I been gettin’ worried about you. You start wonderin’ why, and you get old. Lately, I felt like you were leavin’ me, man. You used to have all the answers.”

Related Characters: Mark Jennings (speaker), Bryon Douglas, Charlie
Page Number: 117
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Chapter 8 Quotes

“I don’t want anybody to fight the Shepards.”

“What?”

“I don’t want to keep this up, this getting-even jazz. It’s stupid and I’m sick of it and it keeps going in circles. I have had it—so if you’re planning any get-even mugging, forget it.”

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker), Angela Shepard, Ponyboy Curtis, Curly Shepard, Tim Shepard, Mike Chambers
Page Number: 129
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Chapter 10 Quotes

“Is that what’s buggin’ you? Listen, I didn’t sell M&M anything. He got it from somebody else. Lookit, Bryon, they’re going to get it from somebody if they want it, so why can’t I make some money? I never forced it on anybody. I never tried to talk somebody into using drugs so I could make a buck.”

He could have talked all night and I wouldn’t have changed my mind.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker), M&M Carlson
Page Number: 147
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Chapter 11 Quotes

“…you straighten up and they’ll let you out early on probation or parole or whatever it is, and you can come home. I’ll get you a job at the store—”

“Like hell you will […] I ain’t never goin’ back there again. When I get outa here, you ain’t never going to see me again.”

“We were like brothers,” I said, desperate. “You were my best friend—”

He laughed then, and his eyes were the golden, hard, flat eyes of a jungle animal. “Like a friend once said to me, ‘That was then, and this is now.’”

I broke out in a sweat and was suddenly glad of the walls and the guards and the bars. I think if he could have, Mark would have killed me.

Related Characters: Bryon Douglas (speaker), Mark Jennings (speaker)
Related Symbols: The Lion
Page Number: 151
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